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Concerns About Ravine Road Return in Melrose and Stoneham

Split between the two municipalities, the small street between West Wyoming Avenue and the Fellsway has long been a source of contention.

 

A good fence may make a good neighbor, but it is a road that has stirred up old animosities between two municipalities in Middlesex County.

Ravine Road, a small street split between Stoneham and Melrose that serves as a shortcut for motorists between West Wyoming Avenue and the Fellsway, has become a renewed point of concern at several Stoneham selectmen’s meetings over the past month.

The road is both a winding park thoroughfare connecting the Fellsway to Woodland Road and a small 700-foot-long residential stretch, with the border between Stoneham and Melrose cutting between houses. Ravine Road has long been a source of contention between the two municipalities, with Stoneham officials claiming that the rush-hour commuters who use the road have made it unsafe for residents.

In the past, concerns over Ravine have become so heated that, in late 2008, Stoneham tried to unilaterally turn the road into a one-way street. Melrose filed an injunction stopping the effort, citing the move as a violation of Massachusetts state law and forcing the two municipalities into legal negotiations on the issue.

However, due to a perceived inaction on the part of Melrose, Stoneham selectman Robert Sweeney recently renewed the issue with the board, in response to complaints he received from Ravine residents about motorists regularly breaking the 25 mph speed limit on the road.

“There may not be a lot of accidents down there, but there have been plenty of near misses,” said Sweeney. “The speed of traffic on the road has been giving people some gray hairs.”

Frustration with the perceived inaction has led to a request by Stoneham Selectman John DePinto that a temporary Jersey barrier be placed on the town line in the middle of the road if solid steps are not taken to rectify the problem by May 7.

Melrose City Solicitor Robert Van Campen noted that he was uncertain over DePinto’s criteria for the temporary barrier, but claimed that the city of Melrose has been making a good-faith effort to find a solution to the issue. Van Campen also reported that Melrose has been working with the town of Stoneham regarding the selection of a traffic engineer to study the area.

“We’re very cooperative, we’re ready to do whatever it takes to alleviate any problems in the area,” said Van Campen. “Obviously though, we need a traffic expert to identify what those problems are and lay out any recommendations for us on what to do.” 

Melrose Patch will continue to update readers on the Ravine Road situation as more details become available.

Ashley Hill

8:21 am on Wednesday, May 4, 2011

Oh brother, its not the road's fault, its the idiots who don't pay attention when they drive past it. I bike/drive on and near Ravine all the time. I can say it is pretty dangerous, but I think the resolution would be to stop arguing about it and fix the connection between Ravine and W Wyoming. The problem is that people don't stop at the line when they want to cross, and they cause traffic on W Wyoming street to slow or stop, backing up to Pond street.

If they only allow right turns, or extend the size of the island, I think it would help quite a bit. That way you don't have people trying to cross W Wyoming or decide at the last minute to turn left onto W Wyoming.

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edith ackerman

8:56 am on Wednesday, May 4, 2011

To Ashley Hill: I think you are thinking of the Fellsway intersection with Ravine Road - -very dangerous - -but the issue is with the traffic on the residential section that connects the Fellsway and W. Wyoming.

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Kim Carr

9:14 am on Wednesday, May 4, 2011

What about adding a speed bump? I work in Cambridge and there are a couple of side roads that I have to drive on that have speed bumps? Dell Ave. has them.....

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Steve Meuse

10:18 am on Wednesday, May 4, 2011

If I remember correctly, the plan for traffic improvements for the Fells area included putting a modern roundabout at the the intersection of Ravine Road and Longfellow Road (You can find it somewhere on the DCR website). Putting a modern roundabout right in the middle of this stretch of road would do wonders. There's also the FACT that a modern roundabout is one of the safest and most efficient types of intersections. There are no modern roundabouts in the area so please don't reply with rotaries are bad because modern roundabouts aren't rotaries!

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Molly Phillips

11:54 am on Wednesday, May 4, 2011

Sheesh. Turning Ravine Road into a one way seems silly. How does a one-way street slow drivers down?? Do people only speed one way and not the other? All it will do is just increase the traffic flow at the intersection of wyoming/Pond/Fellsway and frankly cause more people to cut down Ravine from Wyoming toward the Fellsway to avoid that new mess. Seems like actually trying to slow drivers down is what's needed on Ravine. The obvious solution to me would be to put an additional stop sign at the intersection of Longfellow/Ravine.

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Steve Meuse

5:45 pm on Wednesday, May 4, 2011

The neighboring streets that traffic would be diverted to would be where the traffic should be (West Wyoming), but I agree, making it one -way will only address volume whereas it seems the only concern mentioned is speed.

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Molly Phillips

5:58 pm on Wednesday, May 4, 2011

Whoops. I accidentally deleted my previous comment asking how one-way solves speeding since that's what everyone seems to be concerned about. In addition to Wyoming, the other neighboring streets affected by that change would be Glen, Melbourne and Lynde. Without the ability to go down Ravine from the Fellsway, drivers will be more likely to cut down Glen Street (Which they do already) and return to W Wyoming via Melbourne or Lynde. Glen Street ALREADY has the same issues that residents on Ravine are concerned about and this change would only exacerbate them.

Jeff

1:31 pm on Wednesday, May 4, 2011

I can't understand how speed could be a concern on Ravine Rd. With all the cars parked on both sides of the road and the number of craters leftover from the winter, it's almost impossible to drive above 25 mph without wrecking your car.

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Kate House

2:16 pm on Wednesday, May 4, 2011

Hi everyone. This morning, I spoke with Melrose City Solicitor Rob Van Campen, who reported he had scheduled a phone call with his counterpart in Stoneham for today. Mr. Van Campen said the city would welcome the findings of a traffic consultant and continues to try to get this plan into place with Stoneham. He also highlighted the fact that Melrose has no intention of diverting traffic from Ravine onto nearby side streets, which would then suffer their own set of problems. He hopes the consultant would look at the entire area, including Pond, Glen, the relevant end of W Wyoming, etc.

We'll post any updates we get...

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Steve Meuse

5:41 pm on Wednesday, May 4, 2011

Here's what I was talking about, image 7: http://www.mass.gov/dcr/pe/documents/fellsposter.pdf

Have Stoneham and Melrose been in contact with the DCR since they seem to have their own ideas for traffic calming?

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Daniel DeMaina

1:47 pm on Wednesday, May 18, 2011

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A. B. Gershaw

12:41 am on Thursday, December 27, 2012

Please. I don't like to use my full name because I don't want this comment linked permanently to my name using search engines, thank you very much. It's not the same as using your full name in other contexts of life. This NEVER goes away and is easily accessible by anyone. If you insist that everyone use a full name, most comments will be from people using fake names.

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