TELL US: From Calls to Mailers, Which Candidate Has Bugged You the Most?
The candidates are into their final push, reaching out to voters in all sorts of ways.
We have just days left until Election Day, and each campaign is into the final stretch.
In many cases, that includes an overwhelming amount of contact with voters, from phone calls to roadside "visibilities," to flyers in the mail and endless television ads.
Regardless of your political stripe, you have likely been subject to most of this. Which part of the final push has bugged you the most? Which candidate have you heard from the most? Tell us in the comments section below.
M
11:17 am on Friday, November 2, 2012
I am very tired of all the mailer cards, especially from Elizabeth Warren and Tierney. My kids now say "Warren and Tierney are litterbugs" because at least a few days a week, we find her ad cards on our steps and/or walkway; her supporters don't even bother to tuck into door or handle. As if I don't have enough to clean up with all the broken tree limbs & leaves. Most of the time, I will see an ad with Scott Brown's picture on it and I won't even know by a quick glance if it is an ad for or against him, until I determine whether the card was actually put in my mailbox or thrown onto my property. Many of ads for Warren actually feature pretty nice pictures of Scott Brown! I have never received a Tisei or Brown ad anywhere but in my mailbox. Have not received a single ad from either Romney or Obama that I can recall - does that mean one of them has conceded our state to the other?
Am glad we have an unlisted home # and have not received robocalls from anyone--yet.
Frank Ryan
6:42 pm on Friday, November 2, 2012
Seriously? Of course Romney has no chance to win in MA, the state that elected him Governor, Pretty strange considering we elected Brown, a Republican to serve us in the Senate.
Anne Shirley
7:28 pm on Friday, November 2, 2012
Our number is unlisted and we still get "robocalls" from campaigns all of the time.
Laurie Eldredge
7:04 pm on Saturday, November 3, 2012
I don't think I've gottan a single mailer that is pro Elizabeth Warren, they are all negative. Very annoying that I get them almost every day and some days more than one!
Mary Ellen Fernald
8:24 pm on Saturday, November 3, 2012
I am tired of all the junk mail, and glad I have an unlisted number
Steve Meuse
11:59 am on Monday, November 5, 2012
I was at the South Bay Center in Dorchester this weekend and there were Warren cards all over the car windshields, or rather all over the ground...
Bob
11:24 am on Friday, November 2, 2012
Finegold and Tierney are the 2 worst for me!
CM9
11:36 am on Friday, November 2, 2012
Warren and Tierney. What a waste of money. I haven't read one. All go right into the rubbish.
Frank Ryan
10:11 am on Saturday, November 3, 2012
Brown's get recycled but not read.
Michael Quinlan
8:50 pm on Saturday, November 3, 2012
Learning to read would be a great example for the children!
L C
11:58 am on Friday, November 2, 2012
Warren by far - if she wanted my vote she shouldn't have resorted to basically what I consider harrassment...phone call after phone call & mailer's gallore - disgusting.
Eileen C
1:28 pm on Friday, November 2, 2012
The phone calls are killing me. I work from home full-time, so I am constantly being interrupted with my home phone ringing throughout the day. I have received calls from Bill Clinton, Elizabeth Warren, Scott Brown, John Tierney, and an 8-year old little girl representing her father, whom I have never heard of. When I do pick up, I say "Hello", then hang up when the recording comes on. What a waste of money! I wish they would pump the money into programs for the state!
whatsup
1:49 pm on Friday, November 2, 2012
Scott Brown by far - if he wanted my vote he shouldn't have resorted to basically what I consider harassment...phone call after phone call & mailer's galore - disgusting.
Those fake ads painting him as someone who is for woman’s right ...lame.
Karyn
1:51 pm on Friday, November 2, 2012
All of them! Mailer ads go right into recycling bin...don't even look at them...what a waste of money! Will be glad when it's over!
Linda Rowe
2:24 pm on Friday, November 2, 2012
I agree 100% Yesterday I tossed 6 in the recycle in.
Lena
9:58 am on Sunday, November 4, 2012
I agree....What a waste of money. I just toss them into my recycling bin. Just a couple more days and it will be over!!
Linda Rowe
2:24 pm on Friday, November 2, 2012
*bin
Raj
3:01 pm on Friday, November 2, 2012
Elizabeth Warren not only sent out her false propaganda mailers and had the National Democratic party send out mailers that tell outright lies about her opponent for her as well, but her workers canvassed the neighborhood 3 times door to door and came back even when I told them the first time I was not interested in their candidate.... OBNOXIOUS! It is obvious the National Democratic Party wants the "Kennedy" seat back to hand to Joe Kennedy next time around...
Chris Caesar
4:28 pm on Friday, November 2, 2012
Relevant: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjrthOPLAKM
Amber
5:29 pm on Friday, November 2, 2012
That's sad and funny at the same time...poor kid. I *love* politics, and I'll still be glad when it's over. :)
Vicky Geary
5:25 pm on Friday, November 2, 2012
All of them. But the most insulting mailer I received was actually from Paul Ryan solicitating a donation. The letter thanked me for my past support. Someone in their marketing dept really screwed up. Not only have I never, ever donated to a political party or candidate, I am not even a Republican.
Mary B
5:27 pm on Friday, November 2, 2012
Scott Brown. I am not voting for him just because I am suck of the phone calls mailings not to mention he and his stupid truck. If I never see his face or hear his voice again it will be too soon!!!!!
Dave Miskinis
5:49 pm on Friday, November 2, 2012
I keep getting flyers from Lie-a-watha. I use them to line the litter box. And I hope that I won't have to look at another picture of Joe Tearney ever again after Tuesday.
Diana
11:03 am on Saturday, November 3, 2012
You know, the words under the pictures tell you their real names. Reading is FUNdamental!
Michael Quinlan
8:53 pm on Saturday, November 3, 2012
Seems cruel to force your cat to look Tierney in the eye when defectating on him.
david mokal
6:03 pm on Friday, November 2, 2012
Liz Warren's workers have bugged me the most. I dont like answering the door late at nite. So far 5 times late after 7 pm. You reall dont know if they are ligit or not especially what's been goin on in the city. Mitt romney on the phone all ours. all through the evening. Im going to be glad when this is over. This is probably for me the first time in my life I have ever seen so much aggresive politics.
saul glick
6:59 pm on Friday, November 2, 2012
What would bug me the most?
Barak HHussein Obama wins
Warrens wins.
Garballey wins
Donnelley wins
Tierney wins
Kennedy wins
Tsongas wins
And Anieeeeee walks. LaCourt has her day, the day after the election.
Tierney wins
Thanks.... Saul
Matt C
9:18 am on Saturday, November 3, 2012
Its gonna be a very rough morning for you on the 7th... At least that is what the odds makers are saying:.. http://www.oddschecker.com/specials/politics-and-election/us-presidential-election/winner
Frank Ryan
10:18 am on Saturday, November 3, 2012
Thankfully it's the voters and not you who decide the election. I'm sorry you're going to be so "bugged" by Tuesday's results.
Tim
7:59 pm on Friday, November 2, 2012
What bugs me the most is Lizzy The Liar and her Union BoZo's who keep making phone calls in her behalf . Word has it that Union leaders threatened worker into making phone calls . Absolutely Despicable , that women could care less for the working person ....
Wayne Wagner
9:36 pm on Friday, November 2, 2012
I'm tired of getting all the calls and junk mail from all the Illinois candidates... WE MOVED HERE OVER THREE YEARS AGO!!!!
Joe Veno
5:16 am on Saturday, November 3, 2012
The junk mail is a pain and I just recycle it but look at it this way. The Post Office makes money on the mailings, The printing companys and the news papers make a fortune on the printing, Television makes millions on the ads also. So like I said it is a pain but it is good for the economy.
Robert L Homeyer
6:52 am on Saturday, November 3, 2012
The amount of mail and the phone calls has been amazing. There has been a lot of both. I have my wife put the political junk mail on the counter near the trash barrel so I can just push it in. There is some every single day. It is really a waste of money. We do not answer the phone calls. Our home phones speakout the name of the caller so it becomes easy. The emails come in fast and furious too. I can not wait for this to be over. I also can't wait for Obama to get the boot.
mary m
9:52 am on Saturday, November 3, 2012
Do not call list law should apply to everyone--including politians!!!. My mother twisted her ankle trying to.get to the phone for what? "hello I am President Clinton vote for . . . ? I work late and deserve not to have the phone ringing unless it is from someone who needs me or someone I know and want to talk to.
Lemmy
9:54 am on Saturday, November 3, 2012
The mailings and calls are one thing. The people ringing my doorbell that look like they just came from a methadone clinic hired by the Warren campaign I have a problem with.
Diana
11:12 am on Saturday, November 3, 2012
That's only happened to me twice, each time a local politician. I told each of them that I'd be delighted to discuss the issues at their house at my convenience, and that they might want to make a note next to my address that bothering me at home is more likely to earn you a throatpunch than a vote.
quasimodo
10:07 am on Saturday, November 3, 2012
I'm jealous of all of you! I feel like a nobody, a zilch whose opinions are worthless! So far, I must have gotten no more than 3 or 4 postcards max. from each of the candidates, and only ONE phone call (but with a real people at the other end) from Warren. :~((
Diana
7:44 am on Monday, November 5, 2012
The suspense just might kill me.
Andrew Sylvia
8:38 am on Monday, November 5, 2012
Thanks Vincent,
We can't catch them all.
Guys, do not talk about other users in any kind of light that could be considered negative. Patch is not the place for that. Talk about the subject of the article, please.
Thanks.
Diana
8:41 am on Monday, November 5, 2012
Doesn't that mean the "two blind mice" comment should be deleted as well.
The rules of Romper Room apply to everyone!
Andrew Sylvia
9:49 am on Monday, November 5, 2012
Hey Diana, sorry about that, you're right.
JT
2:13 pm on Saturday, November 3, 2012
Warren's phone calls have been the most annoying--sometimes more than one in the same day. Unbelievable that anyone with such little credibility in so many ways is even stiil in the race. She and her progressive/socialist agenda--including "investing" (which means "spending") taxpayers' hard earned money would be a joke if it weren't so serious and dangerous to our economy and the already unsustainable nationat debt. No one needs her calls or lit.& no one in MA needs her in "the people's seat" in Washington.
Frank Ryan
3:35 pm on Saturday, November 3, 2012
You're right about it being the people's seat and the people will send Elizabeth Warren to Washington to fill that seat. Brown tried, but now he'll return to MA.
Vincent DiRico
12:39 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012
you can bet Kerry is secretly pulling for Brown, I doubt Warren will win.
Frank Ryan
1:36 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012
Vincent...you were saying?
Leonardo DaVinci
2:14 pm on Saturday, November 3, 2012
I had a moat built around my house a couple of years ago just for this kind of thing. Although, I couldn't fill it with real alligators you know, because it's too cold around here, but if any of those pushy poll takers actually try to cross my moat, the gates that hold the dogs back are automatically released. I really value my privacy!
JT
6:04 pm on Saturday, November 3, 2012
The "people" will be sending Senator Brown back to Washington, if they want a someone who represents us. Warren would only represent the Washington/Hollywood elite that support her and the progressive/socialist agenda so inapproptiate for our country. If by strange fate, people want to give up their freedoms and elect Warren, we may all need to build a moat like Leonardo, not just from advertising, but from big government.
Cathy F
6:08 pm on Saturday, November 3, 2012
Warren, Warren, Warren! Argh!
Amber
9:17 pm on Saturday, November 3, 2012
Thankfully, it's modern times and we have this amazing technology called Caller ID and voice mail to screen out the Bad People. :)
Diana
9:43 pm on Saturday, November 3, 2012
Maybe people with landlines answer unknown numbers just in case it's Adam Levine calling from a payphone?
Bill. S
10:14 pm on Saturday, November 3, 2012
"What kid would?".......I hope she gets crushed
Stephen Breen
9:04 am on Sunday, November 4, 2012
I sent Brown an email saying I did not like his negative ads and was not going to vote for him. Now I get calls, emails, and mailings from his campaign. I hope he loses.
charlie
9:18 am on Sunday, November 4, 2012
i am so done with Elizabeth Warren, Bill Clinton and L'Italian. .Stop the nonsense.. I cant beleive the spend their money on such foolishness.. I get my mail and go straight to the recycle bin.. Do they really think that we have the time to look at all these.. I should of saved every single one of them..I bet I could of filled the recycle bin!!
L
9:32 am on Sunday, November 4, 2012
I just would have liked if Barry Finegold left our lawn alone--after telling him (face to face, mind you) a month or two ago that we would prefer not to place any signs on our lawn, suddenly one morning we wake up to TWO.
We took them down and left them on the ground, but when we came home from work they were back up again... I like you, Barry, but your campaign has really soured the rest of my family's feelings towards you after that.
I could also go without another misleading Scott Brown pamphlet. They're starting to actually get STUCK in our mailbox...!
Diana
9:49 am on Sunday, November 4, 2012
Scott Brown's television ads are so sleazy they make me want to soak my tv in a vat of penicillin-infused Lysol. The only credit I'll give him is that at least he doesn't hide behind a PAC; Scott Brown approves his own hateful and deceitful messages. Also, he's a TERRIBLE driver. Eyes on the road, dude!
david mokal
10:52 am on Sunday, November 4, 2012
My TV is soaking now Diana in a tub of bleach after listening to him. You never hear from any of the Tea Partyers like Palin and the rest cause now their too busy putting out books. Thats all they are in it for. THE BIg BUCK
Paul
12:38 pm on Sunday, November 4, 2012
Lizzy Liarwartha should stick to her "heritage" and just use smoke signals next time. I predict she will be back teaching ONE class at Harvard next week. ... $340,000 to teach one class! I am sure she feels our pain!
Diana
1:02 pm on Sunday, November 4, 2012
Just out of curiosity, does it bother you when Senator Centerfold lies? Or makes money? If Harvard would have his sorry ass, I'm pretty sure he'd take that gig.
Shay Kaisie
1:25 pm on Sunday, November 4, 2012
“Everything that irritates us about others can lead us to an understanding of ourselves.” -- Carl Jung.
Leonardo DaVinci
9:58 am on Monday, November 5, 2012
Elizabeth Warren comes from humble beginnings. Her father was struck with a heart attack when Elizabeth was 12 years. He could not do the work he once did and had to take a job that paid much less money. They could not make payments on their family car and lost it. They did without many material comforts for a long time. Elizabeth when she was only 12 years old and her older 3 brothers all got jobs to help the family survive. Her mother began to work at Sears, as a receptionists to make ends meet. The family was threatened with losing everything and bankrupcy was the next step, but the family worked together to keep it together. Elizabeth went to College on a scholarship the first of her family to go to college. All three of her brothers served in the US Military. When you call her names, and hint that she could not identify or feel the pain she and her family experienced in her early days, you are terribly misinformed and likely have preconceived notions about this great lady. based on false ads. Why call her names, what does that accomplish? You have and know very little substanial truth about Elizabeth Warren. It just sounds like pure hate, when you have to call her names. Yes, she makes lot of money now and it's because she is a very bright and accomplished women and earned her worth, no matter how your try to color it. She could make a lot more money staying out of politics but she wants to help a struggling middle class, for obvious lessons she learned as a kid.
Tanya Seebach
8:22 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012
No racism here...is that really the best you got?? Diana, I accidentally flagged one your replies when I meant (and did) flag this ignorant comment by Paul. Just so you know...
Shay Kaisie
1:17 pm on Sunday, November 4, 2012
Diana - I think Paul is becoming really confused. Paul wrote: "To Leonardo....I've read your comments over the past week regarding Romney, and I came to one conclusion....you clearly have a hatred for wealthy people.Those who have little or nothing, tend to knock the ones who put in the hard work to get to where they are today." Now Paul is upset with Elizabeth Warren's success. Maybe the truth of the matter is that he has a problem with her "heritage".
ron johnson
10:25 am on Monday, November 5, 2012
Shay,
I for one am not unhappy about anyone's success. I have an issue with someone who claims to be what they are not. EW is successful and has earned her place on the faculty at Harvard. What I find fault with are her claims to be for the little guy with no evidence of actually doing the work, and her time helping draft Dodd-Frank does not come close, sorry. She has never done what other successful lawyers do and donate her time, she has collected heathly fees along the way. There are scores of lawyers who helped people fight against forclosure, there are scores of lawyers that volunteer for battered women through such things as the Dove Project. So Shay I have no problem with her success, just don't tell me how she has worked her whole life for the middle class or the disadvantaged. EW is a fraud who is running as a puppet of the party and she is ill-equiped for the job.
paul surette
4:03 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012
Let's be clear about this, Shay.....READ my name. It's 'Paul Surette'.....not the other 'Paul' and apology accepted!
paul surette
4:11 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012
And obviously, Shay, that ridiculous remark regarding Elizabeth Warren's 'heritage', well, normally I don't even respond to statements like that, but here goes.....I don't care what color someone is....pink , red, black , green......who gives a rat. Color or heritage doesn't define a person. You're now implying either Paul (not me) or myself, are racists. You know where you can shove THAT remark :)
JT
3:22 pm on Sunday, November 4, 2012
Anyone who really has been watching & listening to what's been happening these last 4 years--and about 50 or so before that, knows he/she has a critical choice to make Tues.--and it's not just about party or candidates; it's about America. Do you want to keep the democratic republic that our country has been for over 200 years with individual liberties for everyone and the freedom and opportunity for folks to pursue their personal visions of the American Dream--or do you want our country to become the progressive/socialist style government where bureaucrats determine citizens' fates, consistently take from them and promise more than they can give, and spend us into the same situation as Greece. Be careful what you vote for, our lives and the lives of our children and grandchildren--and then some-- depend on it.
BAV
8:35 am on Monday, November 5, 2012
I agree that it is a critical choice. As you say, I choose a democratic republic with individual liberties for everyone and the freedom and opportunity for folks to pursue their personal visions of the American dream. How do we get that? Clearly in this election it is the Democratic party which is fighting for the lofty ideals of which you speak.
If, however, we want a government of the rich and for the rich, a government which has rejected science, reason, and humanity, then please vote for the GOP. I echo what you said, "Be careful what you vote for, our lives and the lives of our children and grandchildren--and then some-- depend on it."
Shay Kaisie
4:19 pm on Sunday, November 4, 2012
JT -Yes, I do want to keep the democratic republic. That is why I am voting for President Obama and Elizabeth Warren! I will always vote for brains over bull any day.
Nikki
4:43 pm on Sunday, November 4, 2012
Shay, Shay, Shay, you are soooooo misguided! I'm assuming you are young, so you will learn. I think it was Winston Churchill who said something like 'if you are young and not a liberal, you have no heart; if you are old and not conservative, you have no brains.'
quasimodo
5:45 pm on Sunday, November 4, 2012
If I had a dollar for each time I have heard this misquote repeated, I’d be a rich by now. There is no record of Churchill ever speaking these words. Actually, Churchill did precisely the opposite. He stated in politics as a Conservative Party member. He switched to the Liberal Party at age 29. He later returned to the Conservative Party at age 49. Furthermore, Churchill would have never made such a statement, which would have certainly insulted his most beloved wife, Clementine, a life-long Liberal. And by the way, the words, Conservative and Liberal refer to the names of two British parties and hardly have the connotations they have in this country.
Shay Kaisie
5:59 pm on Sunday, November 4, 2012
Nikki, Nikki, Nikki - I am sure if review everything about Mitt & Scott, you will agree with Walter Lippmann who realized many years ago "Brains, you know, are suspect in the Republican Party".
Nikki
9:25 pm on Sunday, November 4, 2012
quasi, after I read your post I decided to check google, and found an entry that matched your post almost word for word...such a coincidence, huh?!
Diana
9:36 pm on Sunday, November 4, 2012
But did you find that Churchill said that?
Diana
10:08 pm on Sunday, November 4, 2012
Eh, no point waiting. He didn't.
http://www.winstonchurchill.org/learn/speeches/quotations/quotes-falsely-attributed
quasimodo
10:22 pm on Sunday, November 4, 2012
Nikki, I am not an historian but I knew that what you reported was not a fact. Historical facts are facts, and reporting these facts does not constitute plagiarism. Contrary to what Republican think, facts are important, and I wanted to make sure of myself before I opened my mouth to correct you. There are many entries on Google, which confirm that my memory was not failing, so maybe you could have done a search before speaking up. But I guess if it’s OK for Romney you figured it would be OK for you also.
A Taker
11:09 am on Monday, November 5, 2012
The saying is true. Who cares who actually said it?
kate lipton
10:11 pm on Sunday, November 4, 2012
Diana-
I would have to say no but certainly did find that "Brains, you know, are suspect in the Republican Party".
Nikki
10:21 pm on Sunday, November 4, 2012
Some sites attribute it to him, and some dispute it. A couple sites suggest Disrali (sp?). Obviously it is a quote from *someone*, and whomever it was, I like his/her concept.
Diana
10:45 pm on Sunday, November 4, 2012
All sites are not created equal. The Winston Churchill library disputes it, I'm inclined to trust them. And yes, it's almost as often attributed to Benjamin Disraeli, by people who know who that is (he didn't say it either, though.)
People don't get more conservative as they age because they get smarter. It's because they get lazy and stop thinking, or caring much except about their tiny little piece of the world. They calcify. First step toward death, really.
Nikki
6:54 am on Monday, November 5, 2012
Diana, your last paragraph is hilarious! Do you mind if I ask how old you are? (You don't have to answer if you don't want to.) But, thanks for starting my day off with a laugh!
Diana
7:35 am on Monday, November 5, 2012
I'm 42, old enough to see the phenomenon taking hold in some of my peers, and to have watched it overtake the minds of elders whose opinions I used to respect.
I mean, they completely abandon the capacity for critical (let alone nimble) thought. "Oooh, which website shall I trust? It's so haaaaaaaard to decide whether The Churchill Library or Yahoo Answers is more reputable and authoritative!!!"
In my experience, people who identify as "conservative" have decided that everything they think they know is good and right and there's not much point to thinking any more.
Nikki
8:31 am on Monday, November 5, 2012
I don't know, Diana, but I think you are generalizing too much. All I do know is that the conservatives think they're right, and the liberals think they're right, and everyone is entitled to their opinion. It would be nice to find a middle ground, but I suppose that's asking too much...
Bob
8:58 am on Monday, November 5, 2012
Diana, You just described my oh so liberal, Irish, Catholic family members. The ones who didn't show up at their nephews wedding because he is gay. While I the token conservative not only showed up but I love and support both my nephew and his husband. AND applauded and celebrated when they informed me they were getting married.
But you continue your generalization...
Diana
9:23 am on Monday, November 5, 2012
Bob, your family members and I are using a different definition of liberal. It's not the same as "Democrat." If you're against gay marriage, you're not liberal (or, more accurately, progressive, which is the term I generally prefer). It's really pretty unlikely for a Catholic to be progressive, by definition.
quasimodo
8:38 am on Monday, November 5, 2012
Diana wrote,
"People don't get more conservative as they age because they get smarter. It's because they get lazy and stop thinking, or caring much except about their tiny little piece of the world. They calcify. First step toward death, really."
which Nikki thought was "hilarious" !?
To me, a more appropriate word would have been "depressing," because it is the sad fact of this society. It's (excuse the cliché) "Don’t bother me with facts, son. I’ve already made up my mind” **
**Foghorn Leghorn, the animated chicken in Warner Brothers cartoons.
Irene
8:49 am on Monday, November 5, 2012
I can't stand to see Warren's ad on comcast when I try to log on to my email.
Leonardo DaVinci
10:17 am on Monday, November 5, 2012
I do not support the candidacy of Scott Brown who may be a likeable guy with a handsome jet set family, but for me, I will always see him as a Burt Reynold wanna be. It just fits to closely to what he would be thinking at 22 years old. Burt did it and became a star, why not me. You don't pose semi-nude in the same national magazien that Reynolds di because you thought it would be just the thing you needed on your resume to become a US Senator when you grow up. No, there is no way that double standard hog wash should be allowd to stand up. Hey, if he wanted to Mr. Hot Stuff, at 22, no big deal but don't try to tell be this guy is serious man, and don't try to fake it as a US Senator with something to add at this time of great financial threats all aroung. I take the positon of US Senator too seriously. Elizabeth Warren is a pro and one of the most informed and qualified financial experts in land and that is exactly what we need RIGHT now, especially considering the fac and threat to us all that the big banks and financial institutions along with Wall St. have become our mortal enemies and predators. We need this woman badly at this time, or they will eat us alive and our children's children.
ron johnson
10:34 am on Monday, November 5, 2012
Leanardo,
While I think posing was a poor choice at the time, I cannot agree with the arguement that EW is a pro. She could not even name a Senator that she felt that she could work with, who was still in the Senate. The one she named was defeated in the primary. She is a puppet of the Democratic party and will vote party lines on every issue. EW is not going to be in a position to do anything she promises as one person in a body of 100 anyway. As far as Wall Street, hope your retirement accounts do not take too big a hit after the election if Obama wins and allows the deficit to continue to grow, because you see, we are all effected by Wall Street.
Vincent DiRico
12:06 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012
WOW, my condolences that Mitt-mentum has done this to you :o
http://townhall.com/columnists/danieldoherty/2012/11/05/in_the_subject_that_really_matters_professor_warren_fails_her_exams/page/full/
Incumbent Senator Scott Brown has unquestionably served the Commonwealth both ably and faithfully. In fact, at a time of increased polarization and gridlock in Washington, Scott Brown has been one of only a handful of lawmakers genuinely committed to working with both political parties to move the country forward.
His opponent -- a deeply partisan Democrat who once asserted she created “the intellectual foundation” for the radical Occupy Wall Street movement.
Scott Brown’s track record of bipartisanship, as well as his unique across-the-aisle approach to governance, is sorely lacking but desperately needed in Washington. Solving the nation’s myriad challenges -- high unemployment, trillion-dollar-plus deficits, a broken tax code, and so on -- will require increased cooperation between Republicans and Democrats and proven bipartisan leadership in the years ahead. And as the sole GOP federal lawmaker from Massachusetts, Brown has shown -- time and again -- his willingness to cross party lines in support of good legislative ideas irrespective of where they originated.
Leonardo DaVinci
10:20 am on Monday, November 5, 2012
If Paul Surettes still around, I'm sorry for my bad spelling. I'll try to do better next time. I make mistakes when I get a little hyper about this election. I just had a little too much coffee this morning.
paul surette
8:02 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012
it's fine Leonardo. Nobody died from the bad spelling. I just tend to take folks more seriously when they take their grammar the same way :)
Leonardo DaVinci
10:59 am on Monday, November 5, 2012
You seem to forget that Elizabeth Warren was once a Republican who was widely sought after as a political asset. One of the main reasons she left the Republican Party was the new law making it much harder for ordinary everyday Americans to file for Bankruptcy. The Financial Institutions knew they were screwing the American people and also knew that most families could not make the payments as the prices of Medical Insurance, Care For Family Elders, Energey Bills, Food Bills, School Tuition before college and College Costs became so prohibitive that people could not pay their grossly unfair interests rates and therefore started to file for bankruptcy. Elizabeth Warren knew that new law was a terribly unfair to average Americans who could not now, easily file for Bankruptcy any longer after it passed in 2005 or 6. Yet big Auto corporations still could like the one in new lately that Mitt Romney wanted to go bankrupt, so they could start over again, but that was an option taken off the table for the average American and Elizabeth Warren knew it was a screw job to most all of us. She was a Republican, and she left that party because she felt there were many inequities against the average Joe, that Republicans seem to be behind. I believe if she gets elected with Obama she can make a difference and remember it was no accident that was the architect of the Dodd-Franks Consumer Advocacy Bill to make contacts and ads more transparent. If you can't explain it, you can't sell it.
ron johnson
11:28 am on Monday, November 5, 2012
leonardo,
Actually it has always been easy to file for bankruptcy, in fact under the new law you have to take some addtional steps to file. If anything some would argue that until the change, people were using filings without any attempt the pay their debts.
I think that fling makes sense sometimes, but many people used the process to run up credit card debt and walk away. You pay for that in increased fees.
As far as Dodd-Frank, first she was only part of the group and I would argue that most of the provisions were already on the books. The problem with her research was it was flawed and has been called into question by many other lawyers. She was not ahead of the curve at all. I am always intrigued by the concept that saving GM wa a good thing. The fact is that the company was in trouble for years for good reason, they produced bad cars. This can be traced all the way back to the 70's. I would ask you one question, do you buy GM cars every time you buy a car and have you done so for the last 40 years. If not, why does it make sense to protect a company that has been mis-managed for so long.
Patricia
4:50 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012
Unfortuantely, you cannot see that MA was the prize for Warren not getting appointed to that board. I don't think anyone wants to work with her, she's no politician - which is a handicap. She's going to be ineffectual (if elected).
Leonardo DaVinci
11:03 am on Monday, November 5, 2012
Correction (Consumer Advocacy Bill to make financial intitution contracts more easily understood and more transparent) Eliizabeth is far ahead of the curve.
Mark Ouellette
11:14 am on Monday, November 5, 2012
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ron johnson
11:15 am on Monday, November 5, 2012
Diana,
The need to assign labels has become too prevalent and to some degree is the reason the government is coming to a grinding halt. Nikki is right; the middle ground is where politicians need to be. People who view the world as one party is right all the time, accomplish little, working together for the greater good is what we should want from our leaders. Jamming things down the throat of the opposition leads to resentment and intransience.
In the end, one person will win and one will lose and if the country cannot move forward one way or another we will all lose. I hope we can get past the name calling and the bashing in the name of party and partisanship come the day after the election. We may find we have more common ground than you think
Patricia
4:46 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012
The democratic party is not a party of compromise, it's their way or no way. You can tell by some of their rabid supporters like Diana. I think she means well but she can't see the damage one party people like her are doing to this country.
kate lipton
11:18 am on Monday, November 5, 2012
Ron - I am so tired of all the name calling. You lack facts to back up your premise, that Elizabeth Warren is a "puppet". The same is true of Nikki who seems to think that her old age is justification for her position and relies on false quotes to support her premise. Thank you Leonardo, Quas, and Diana for taking the time and making the effort to bring facts to the discussion. Your ethics and efforts are truly appreciated.
ron johnson
12:49 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012
Diane,
let's see, vote for her to keep the Senate from being controled by the Dems. The made up war on woman, the attempt to tie him to other repubicans, the fact that her own party asked her to revamp her campaigne after the convention. Also, please tell me why her ads tie her directly to Obama if she is not in lock step with him. Also, what in her history shows that she was ever going to run for office until the WH picked her to "get the seat back" I could go on, but I doubt you are interested in facts that you do not like. As far as facts, Kate, I am not sure what you are talking about, so I would ask you to explain what you are talking about. Any finally, I am not convinced that the ship is going down at all, you may just need to understand how to work with the winners.
Diana
4:17 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012
Also, I never cease being amused at the men screaming on the internet that the war on women is a myth. You know that they scream it on the internet because they're rightly scared as hell to say it in the actual physical presence of women.
Nikki
12:06 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012
Well, kate, at least we can agree on one thing...I'm tired of all the name calling, too. I would like to chime in here and say, if you'll notice in my original post, I said I THINK the quote was attributed to Churchill. I have no idea who said it, nor do I care...I just appreciate the theory that, as one grows older, (hopefully) one grows wiser.
Shay Kaisie
12:45 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012
Nikki - I am glad to hear that you too are tired of name calling. It would be nice if as one grows older they become wiser. Unfortunately, this is not always the case. Every once in a while you come across an elder who has taken the time to reflect, and read. This is demonstrated in the ability to use facts to win an argument. For those who are capable of this, it is a skill usually learned early in life. We all get old. However few are wise. One thing that I have learned Nikki is that whenever one has a firm conviction on anything and assumes righteousness, the universe usually kicks them in the hiny. Take care.
ron johnson
4:44 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012
Diane,
I am not the one screaming, EW is and big deal I mis-typed a word, you should be so perfect. I love it when left to nothing else to say resort to snide comments and assumptions about the person you with whom you happen to disagree. I am not scared of EW and if fact, my wife is just as if not more qualified than she. I have also worked with many powerful woman that I respect and who have not depended upon misrepresentation of their pasts. So, I guess Diane you can continue to me amazed if you wish, I chose to deal with the facts as presented. One final thought, if you saw EW hide behind the governor at an early news conference when asked about her heritage, you may re-think your position that she is a powerful woman.
Leonardo DaVinci
12:08 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012
Ron I don't think a "puppet" tells her own party I'm leaving you guys because something stinks in Pub Ville. That's not the way it works. What your repeating is what the Financial Institutions, Wall St. and Big Banks say about Warren because they are scared crap of her getting power. Everybody knows this!! and as far not bailing out General Motors, one of your premises you say, is they made bad cars, so let them learn their lesson. However when Wall Street extorted the Federal Goverment to bail them out or risk World Wide financial collaspe, when it is well know fact they they caused the their own problems and their own potential demise by trading faulty securites. More scare tactics so often used in this election. The predatory loan scandal is another example of Big Banks knowingly creating a financial disastor for profit, knowing Goverment (The People ) would have to bail them out because they were "TOO BIG TO FAIL". So we did, but it was a extorted money from the tax-payer. That's why if you have a savings account in a bank now, they give you bird seed as interest for the money you keep there. We are paying for the WHITE COLLAR crimes of these monstrous FInancial Institutions and someone should have gone to jail for it but George W, his justice department and other high ranking officials with Wall St. decided that no one would be prosecuted for their crimes. I wonder why they would that.? So under your premise we should have let Wall St. and the Big Banks just tank???
ron johnson
12:56 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012
Leonardo,
Tell me one thing see disagees with the WH on and why do her ads have her with Obama all the time.
There are actually some banks deemed too big to fail under Dodd-Frank. Interest rates are low as an attempt to stimulate lending, and this has nothing to do with the failure of the banks. The Fed sets the rate. To go back to the GM, yes to a degree, for instance, say they continue to make bad cars, should we bail them out again. How about back in the 80's when some of the Mass companies such as Wang went out a business, maybe we should have stepped in and we could still be using word processors. Leonardo, please tell me one thing that was changed at GM, were the managers fired, did they start building much better cars, do you own one. The government can't save everyone, and in this case, it was union jobs that were saved. How about all the non-union workers, oh yeah, there are not worth saving.
ron johnson
1:09 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012
Leonardo, was she running for office when she changed parties, no. So what difference does that make, I voted for Clinton, that does not mean I was a democract. It means I voted for a Democrat in that race. She was hand-picked by the WH to run and I cannot see how you can deny this simple fact. She is not interested in the state and has no ties. She is a lawyer who never bothered to be admited to the state bar. She has never worked for the people of this state in any way until she decided to run. Wall Street is not scared of her or anyone, by the way. Any by the way Obama could have decided to prosecute anyone he wished, the statute in limitations had not run. Also, he did nothing when AIG paid the big bonuses after he took office, He looked the other way as well. Why did he do this, was he afraid?
Patricia
4:45 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012
Warren would be a junior Senator with no experience in politics. She would get nothing done, being a newbie. No one is scared of Warren, more like find her annoying. Besides if this current administration could not even bring up charges against Corzine, what makes you think Warren would be any different?
Diana
7:21 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012
Patricia, how does that argument not apply to Brown when he was elected?
Vincent DiRico
12:15 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012
I don't answer and recycle the cards, all a silly waste of $.
This is the future (2 million hits, social media, ...), can't imagine phone polls are going to be around for long, ...
The Donkey Whisperer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6etfJgZQ7A
"these donkeys don't live in the United States of France they live in the USA"
"see those big ears, he still can't hear me"
... priceless :o
Mitt-mentum in the USA!
Gene Pinkham
12:29 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012
I doubt that Churchill's wife would have been embarrassed about that quote being attributed to him after the more incendiary ones aimed at Lady Astor.
Bob Ferrari
12:52 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012
What others are saying about Warren vs Brown, and the rest:
http://www.tewksburyissues.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=64&t=10457
Richard Jertz
1:02 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012
I would rather have a conversation with Kevin MacDonald than get another phone call or flyer in the mail.
Tony
2:57 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012
The negative mailers are the worst form of propaganda. Pure "garbage" literally. This year I shredded a few and sent back their remains to the organizations that sent them. If everybody did this I think that it would send a clear message that we don't care to receive them. It also sends back trash that we pay to have hauled away. Believe me, if millions of these were returned progaganda organizations would stop sending them. I'd love to see their offices littered with the same trash they send us.
Patricia
4:35 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012
Good idea Tony. I wonder if we can think of something to stop this needless mailings before the next election. I wonder what the Post office would say if we simply wrote Return To Sender on all these...
Besides, for any candidate running with an environment theme - they could start this by declaring they will not use mass mailings.
david mokal
3:20 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012
I got one today and says he's Pat Boone representing 60's for Mitt Romney. 3 calls 3 days with his stupid lil jokes. Then you get the calls when their robo call does not work and you get silence. That's when it starts to freak you out.
Vincent DiRico
3:36 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012
priceless!
Anchor homes in on Warren wigwam
http://bostonherald.com/news/columnists/view/20221105anchor_homes_in_on_warren_wigwam
Khazei: “I asked Warren if she had anything in the house that reflects her Native American heritage.”
On the videotape, you can see Granny’s smile freeze on her face. After all, Kim Khazei’s cousin is Alan Khazei — muscled out of the Democratic primary to clear the field for the carpetbagging fake Indian. Was this question payback from Clan Khazei?
Finally, Granny replies, the smile still unmoving. Her voice is frosty.
“I have plenty of pictures. They’re not for you.”
Vincent DiRico
3:36 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012
This mansion of hers is yet another inconvenient truth, upsetting her invented narrative about beginning life on the middle class’ “ragged edge.”
Last year, before giving an interview to New York magazine, her campaign insisted that the house be “off the record.” Last week on NECN, the posh estate was described as a “Victorian fixer-upper.”
Really? According to records, she and her professor husband picked it up for $447,000 in September 1995. The statewide average price in Massachusetts for a home that month was $181,816.
Some fixer-upper. As usual, when Granny gets caught stretching the truth, she stretches it a little further. Here’s what she told Kim Khazei: “You know the phrase ‘a rescue dog?’ This was sort of a rescue house.”
I thought a “rescue dog” was one in danger of being put down. I’m pretty certain Granny’s Linnaean Street mansion, almost 4,000 square feet, was not in such danger. You know her M.O. If you don’t like her current explanation, wait five minutes.
paul surette
4:56 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012
Well said Vincent !
Vincent DiRico
4:01 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012
A president who acts/talks like a community organizer, sad.
Mitt-mentum solves that tomorrow!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ShdiYQ1EHvA
"Don't boo. Vote, Voting's the best revenge."
paul surette
4:17 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012
To Chris Caesar and Mark Ouellette: Clearly the two of you have no handle on what is said on these threads. Either you suffer from selective reading skills, or you agree with what people like Diana say. All that is ever spewed from her is nastiness and snide remarks. And now the race remarks? If you want people to step up their game, then how about the two of YOU step up yours and tell the toad to refrain from the race remarks like the one she made earlier in this post! Practice what you preach !
Diana
4:25 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012
Also, race remarks in this thread? What on earth are you on about?
Diana
6:32 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012
Um... I'd just like to point out that my request for Paul Surrette to point out my "race remarks" was deleted but his calling me a toad stands. I know y'all are busy, and it's not really my nature to counter-whine every one of Paul's sniveling protestations about life's unfairness, but I will if I need to.
Chris Caesar
7:44 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012
Name-calling in a post complaining about name-calling; seems sincere.
Andrew Sylvia
8:25 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012
Paul and Diana,
This article is about political candidates. Talk about political candidates, not each other.
Thanks.
Mike G.
5:51 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012
Uh oh, the inquisition has expanded!
Dave Gray
6:33 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012
Well, because I had absolutely nothing better to do, I re-read all the posts in this string. I didn't see one that even remotely struck me as being "racist". While I have questioned Chris Caesar in the past about seemingly innocent posts that have been removed, in this case, I can't find a reason to fault him. or Mark Ouellette. Sorry, Paul, I just don't see the reason for your criticism.
Tanya Seebach
8:09 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012
Paul
12:38 pm on Sunday, November 4, 2012
Lizzy Liarwartha should stick to her "heritage" and just use smoke signals next time. I predict she will be back teaching ONE class at Harvard next week. ... $340,000 to teach one class! I am sure she feels our pain!
Okay, this was posted by Paul (Somebody) and to me it is racist and inappropriate...notice the last name he gives Elizabeth Warren as well as his reference to her using smoke signals. Please...that is the best argument you can come up with?
Vincent DiRico
8:27 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012
Mr 0 and Ms Cowley lied during the second debate, this is video that did not air, conducted on 9/12/2012
Mitt-mentum!
http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=50134495n&tag=mg;60minutes
KROFT: Mr. President, this morning you went out of your way to avoid the use of the word terrorism in connection with the Libya Attack, do you believe that this was a terrorism attack?
OBAMA: Well it’s too early to tell exactly how this came about, what group was involved, but obviously it was an attack on Americans. And we are going to be working with the Libyan government to make sure that we bring these folks to justice, one way or the other.
KROFT: It’s been described as a mob action, but there are reports that they were very heavily armed with grenades, that doesn’t sound like your normal demonstration.
OBAMA: As I said, we’re still investigating exactly what happened, I don’t want to jump the gun on this. But your right that this is not a situation that was exactly the same as what happened in Egypt. And my suspicion is there are folks involved in this. Who were looking to target Americans from the start. So we’re gonna make sure that our first priority is to get our folks out safe, make sure our embassies are secured around the world and then we are going to go after those folks who carried this out.
paul surette
8:34 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012
To reiterate: I DID NOT post anything about Elizabeth Warren....folks, my name is, now read this with me....P-A-U-L....S-U-R-E-T-T-E.....kabish?
Mike G.
9:40 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012
Capisce.
Marion Bradford
8:55 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012
Uh! what was the question?, who has bugged you the most, all of them, I have happily put all of the glossy colored mailers, through the shredder, and got a great deal of satisfaction while I did it..... I'm sick to death of it all. and folks stick to the subject
Chris Daley
8:56 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012
This entire election bugged me: the pandering, condescension, lies and distortions on TV mostly, and the mailbox ads. I have Caller ID and the phone rang and rang close to ten times during my painting at my desk today, all went unanswered. Yes Churchill is right; I had heart till about Reagan, then I got brains! Bush, Bush, Dole, Bush, Bush and McCain. Our national DEBT can't afford the man from Hawaii-Kenya-Chicago so I go with the millionaire from Mexico-Michigan-Utah-Mass. I saved Brown's mailings, but used Warren's flyers like another did with Tierney's. Merry Christmas is NEXT!
Diana
9:03 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012
Um... not Churchill. We covered that.
Diana
9:15 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012
I mention that only because a thinking person (i.e., one with "brains") would generally take that as an opportunity to wonder "Hey, what else am I wrong about?"
Francesca
10:07 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012
I think Elizabeth Warren has bugged me the most. I'm tired of the daily ringing of my doorbell. I'm tired of the automated calls to my house. Just yesterday, there was a prerecorded message from Matt Damon for Elizabeth Warren. I'm also tired of the Question 4 calls about Somerville. My phone is filling up with blocked calls. I want my peace. I don't need people bothering me on Saturday and Sunday. I don't care that it's freedom of speech. I have a right to privacy. I made a No Soliciting sign for my door yesterday hoping to have some peace tonight. It says, NO SOLICITING NO POLITICS NO SUBSCRIPTIONS NO RELIGION DO NOT DISTURB UNLESS YOU ARE UPS, FEDEX, USPS, DHL, AUTHORIZED DELIVERY, CLOSE FRIENDS/FAMILY. So far so good. I've shut off the ringer to my phone too. I want my peace of mind.