Where are Melrose's Most Ignored Stop Signs?
Stop signs are not a suggestion, but they're sometimes treated as if they are.
There are hundreds of stop signs in Melrose, but many drivers tend to treat them more like yield signs or, even worse, like they don't even see them.
With so many drivers rolling through stop signs, we want to know: Where are Melrose's most ignored stop signs?
Let us know by posting a comment in the comments section below.
Jennifer Malone
6:21 am on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
This isn't so much an ignored stop sign as it is everyone thinking there IS a stop sign where there isn't (eastbound on West Emerson @ Tremont right in front of Bohemian Coffehouse/Trinity Church). Eastbound traffic can't have a stop sign because it would back traffic onto the commuter rail tracks but stopped drivers at that intersection always assume it's a four way stop. I've seen through drivers honked at, cursed at and nearly rammed in the side by unaware drivers. Wish Melrose would put THREE WAY STOP above all three stop signs in that intersection to increase awareness!
Tina DeSelm
7:45 am on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
Hi Jen,
It does say 3-way stop at the other signs (or at least the one coming from the high school so I assume the other two as well) you're right, I've been yelled at and even almost hit someone who started to go, assuming I would be stopping. Drivers just need to be more aware.
Steve Meuse
12:55 pm on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
According to the Manual on Traffic Control Devices, "Supplemental plaques with legends such as 2-WAY, 3-WAY, 4-WAY, or other numbers of ways shall not
be used with STOP signs." The only one that can be used is "ALL WAY". Wouldn't removing the westbound stop sign help solve the problem?
Another option would be: "Plaques with the appropriate alternative messages of TRAFFIC FROM LEFT (RIGHT) DOES NOT STOP (W4-4aP) or ONCOMING TRAFFIC DOES NOT STOP (W4-4bP) should be used at intersections where STOP signs control all but one approach to the intersection, unless the only non-stopped approach is from a one-way street." - This seems to fit the situation. Note that this is a "should", so it's up to the local authority. "Shall", like in my first excerpt, means that it cannot be used at all.
mike festa
6:54 am on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
Jennifer is absolutely right....the 3-way stop at West Emerson and Tremont is very confusing. Problem is the railroad tracks prevent the installation of the 4th sign...
Mike
Chris R
8:37 am on Thursday, September 13, 2012
It seems like the stop sign on West Emerson should be removed and allow parking on only one side, either the church side or the Alfredos side so the traffice flows better right there. I have witnessed many close calls but one time the two drivers got out of there cars. Fortunately the driver who had the right away was able to explain to the out-of-towner (RI license plate) that it was a 3 way stop sign before the agrument got any worse.
Elizabeth Christopher
8:46 am on Thursday, September 13, 2012
Steve Meuse's suggestion, posting "Plaques with the appropriate alternative messages of TRAFFIC FROM LEFT (RIGHT) DOES NOT STOP (W4-4aP) or ONCOMING TRAFFIC DOES NOT STOP (W4-4bP)" seems like the way to go. I see confusion about the 3-way stop at this intersection EVERY DAY.
Another horror-spot is the intersection of Lynn Fells, Melrose St., and Crystal Street (near the high school, Eastern Bank, and Dunkin' Donuts). Can't we put a traffic light there? Safety of our kids is at risk.
Laura
7:46 am on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
The stop sign at Green Street and Howard Street going onto Howard towards Horace Mann school/Saugus. People run this all the time so if you are on Albert/Elm/Clifford pulling onto Howard you can't get out since they don't stop. Have seen many near misses there.
Alison E. Burke
7:51 am on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
Lincoln and Porter; Porter and Bellevue. I walk to work and see this constantly.
Alison B.
Chuck Loycano
7:59 am on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
My vote: The stop sign at the intersection of Washington and Pleasant Sts by Martys Furniture.
Alice Golub
8:38 am on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
I live on corner of Howayd and Elm. Sometimes I sit on front prch and count the cars who run Howard/Green Streets sign in our 8 years in our home, police detail has been out tcketing MAYBE 1/2 dozen times. I also think Clifford st between Albert and Elm shuld be made ONE WAY ouy onto Elm/ Howard as there are stop signs before turning onto Howard. Turning off Howard onto Elm/Clifford is one massive free for all. Can you PLEASE share these comments with "powers that be"?
Jackie Hamilton
8:46 am on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
Anything in the Horace Mann neoghborhood, especially the two stop signs on Damon Ave at Boardman and Glendale. It is a small neighborhood with children walking to and from school. Not only do people speed but they ignore the stop signs completely (I live on one of these corners and watch it all day log). Residents have written to the city and police about it but so far nothing has been done. During the "increased patrols" of the area the police speed just as much as everyone else.
Alice Golub
11:54 am on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
Perhaps we should consider organizing a community action coallition? We could request meeting with Aldermen, Mayor and Police Chief. Many years ago while living in another town, we actually organized a baby buggy brigade when they threatened to take away buses and make elementary students walk almost 2 miles in areas without sidewalks. We got Boston TV coverage and buses were reinstated. Imagine a daily buggy, bicycle brigade on Howard and surrounding streets.
Kristen Cantin
8:48 am on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
I Live at on the corner of CIifford and Nelson. That intersection there is horrible! I can't even begin to tell you how many cars don't stop. Nelson is a big cut through to Howard and the Fells to Lincoln. There are so many children that live in the neighborhood and who walk to Horace Mann! It is very dangerous!!
Joan Ruland Donnelly
9:40 am on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
The stop signs at Swains Pond Ave/Beech Ave/Cumner Ave! I have come to that intersection, stopped, and watched other cars just drive through while barely slowing down to make sure nobody else is running the stop signs.
Steve Meuse
12:59 pm on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
That intersection should really be rebuilt as a modern roundabout.
Ann McCarthy
9:57 am on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
This question combined with a previous polling question on speeding spots around Melrose illustrates the traffic conflicts around Melrose I believe. We are a walking community - our schools, our downtown, our excellent access to car-free transportation - but we are also a gateway community for many types of drivers trying to access other places and to do business. I'd really like to see a mandatory city speed limit of 25 mph that is routinely enforced until a pattern of slower movement is established. This conscious driving would hopefully also make drivers more aware of things like stop signs and cross-walks. Hopefully.....
Josh Chace
11:05 am on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
I don't know if it's considered the "most ignored" but as the fiance and I were walking to the Roosevelt School to pick up our kids one day an older woman blew right through the intersection at Melrose & Vinton, turning left without a stop or a glance to us about to enter the intersection. She then missed the turn into the school. Stopped dead. Backed up. Blocked traffic. And then parked in front of a driveway.
Mary Walsh
11:43 am on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
The 4 (5) way intersection @ Linwood Ave and Lynde/Malvern is totally ignored. As is in that same 1 block the 4 way stop @Summer and Lynde. I have had discussion with Police who have gone through these STOP signs.
Michelle Carson
8:08 am on Thursday, September 13, 2012
Mary...I agree! I live near there and routinely see the T bus turn right onto Linwood without slowing down.
Bob
12:31 pm on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
Nelson and clifford st are terrible.
Matt Wallace
5:51 pm on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
The most ignored Stop sign is the one between Hunts photo/video and The Melrose Y Childcare Center. I've watched people use that alley way as a short cup to pass up the light and zip through the parking lot. The problem is that the parking lot has small children walking in it.
It's an accident waiting to happen.
Janet Gould
12:45 pm on Thursday, September 13, 2012
How about Gooch and any other street crossing it at the hours between 4 and 6. Melrose has turned into a big cut through for cars coming from Lebanon to rt one and the drivers in the cars just don't pay attention to the very obvious stop signs. Big money maker for the town if tickets were given out here...
Percy
2:18 pm on Friday, September 14, 2012
The jct of Gooch and Foster is particularly bad because of the terrain and narrowness of the street. On the other hand, people sail down Laurel like there's no tomorrow because it's still very wide due to its former scale as a trolley route (Grove got narrowed a decade ago).
And wasn't there supposed to be a light installed at Lebanon & Sylvan as part of the mitigation for the Oak Grove developments?
Steve Meuse
2:27 pm on Friday, September 14, 2012
@Percy. Laurel doesn't seem much wider than the other roads in the neighborhood, though it is definitely lacking in trees which I think is most of the issue. It makes the street seem much wider.
Alice Golub
1:45 pm on Thursday, September 13, 2012
Agreed. If Melrose Police set up traffic enforcement detail during AM and PM commutes, the revenues would surely add to the city coffers. And given the fact that Melrose HS didn't "crack" Boston Magazine's top 50, I think we all agree that the funds could be put to good use.
Anyone know if the Mayor reads these remarks?
C.Morabito
9:50 am on Friday, September 14, 2012
I would like to see more enforcement in all traffic violations. Stand at the corner of Franklin St. and Main some morning, and you will see dozens of drives that do not stop on red lights. More taking the right turn on red when it is clearly posted "no turn on red. Or even better the drivers that blow through the red light on the WALK sign. When a ticket is written for a moving violation who gets the money? If the town even gets a small portion of it, it could really add up!
Percy
2:15 pm on Friday, September 14, 2012
The real problem with so many of the cut-throughs is badly designed stop light intersections in the city. Lebanon Street at Foster/Upham/Emerson is particularly bad, because the narrowness of the old street means that north-south trough traffic is badly blocked by cars making turns as the stop lights are not sequenced the way they should be given the volume and the street narrowness.
Steve Meuse
2:25 pm on Friday, September 14, 2012
When MassDOT reconstructs Lebanon from Main to Lynde(?) sometime in the next 5 years these issues should be taken care of. They keep postponing the project. I believe the new date is 2016.
Ron Sen
3:05 pm on Saturday, September 15, 2012
Lincoln and Porter (going east). Some people drive as though the sign is invisible.